Your only arguments for Anakin have been "better feats," and "greater experience." Anakin has fought in Legends canon the likes of Ventress, Obi Wan, Shaak Ti, Barriss, Ahsoka, Dooku several times, and various Jedi Masters/Padwans in the Temple massacre. so how can you determine who is better without comparing their feats and capabilities. So I ask again: how is Anakin more skilled than Luke and how does that translate into Anakin beating him? And the only thing Luke struggled with was his inner darkness. Oh, you dont care for proof of why Anakin rekts. everything mentioned makes him more skilled then luke. A lot of people seem to think that Darth Vader was physically stronger than Anakin Skywalker (movie versions), However I would actually say that Anakin was stronger, In Return of the Jedi Vader only seemed slightly stronger than a much older obi wan (who would most likely be weaker physically). Luke. Isn't there evidence in the book that Vader wasn't holding back? Honestly Rebels Ahsoka is better than ROTJ Luke by feats. (Luke says his lightsaber, which he often swings, is more awesome than Harry's wand. Then there is the Luke from after Return of the Jedi when he's the master of the New Jedi Order er whatever it's called. he was trained by the best, when they were at their best, and even fought and took on the best(dooku/obiwan/ various other force sensitives and jedi's). Vader vs Master Luke, Master Luke wins. Just from a pure fencing perspective, it's hard to beat episode 3 in terms of feats. @citizensentry: Yes and no, Captain Rex is in the Clone Wars and he did side with the rebels but I don't ever remember him pledging his allegiance to him, so it more than likely happens further down the line. he had well over a decade of training/practice/ dueling and even fought in a war on a scale that dwarfs anything the rebellion could produce. He has incredible potential with the force but it never happened. Canon wise, Anakin wins until Luke gets better feats. @bigsambino87: What exactly has Anakin done to mark him as more skilled? Anakin Skywalker vs Luke Skywalker is a bonus episode of ZackAttackX's One Minute Melees and his ninth collab with ZombieSlayer23. La Famille Skywalker est une lignée d'humains sensible à la Force dont le premier membre connu est Shmi Skywalker. Even though it wasn't exactly shown in the movies, it was there. Start Abusing force powers on Luke? After the fall of the empire, he would go on to establish the New Jedi Order and eventually serve as its Grand Master. I ask for the last time: How is Anakin more skilled than Luke and how does that translate into Anakin beating him? you claim they are not worthy. At anytime Vader could have killed luke the end. Blows away over 20 battle Droids with the force. Anakin Skywalker est un jeune chevalier Jedi, qui deviendra le Sith Dark Vador (Darth Vader en anglais). A un certain point de l'histoire galactique aux environs des Guerres Mandaloriennes qui faisait rage dans la galaxie, le futur Anakin Skywalker est apparu dans une vision de force du maître jedi Q'Anilia en tant que Dark Vador leSeigneur Sith qu'il allait devenir au cours de sa vie, avec la présence d'un jeune Padaw… Battle. Il devient chevalier Jedi après avoir été formé par Obi-Wan Kenobi et Yoda. Like. The Father states "Only the chosen one can tame my children." @comicdude23: what. Les années passèrent et la plupart des amis de Luke, plus ambitieux, comme Biggs Darklighter et Janek Sunber « Tank », quittèrent respectivement Tatooine pour l'Académie Navale de Prefsbelt IV et l'Académie Impériale de Carida. He defeated Dooku, who WAS the finest pupil Yoda ever had. Force crushes weapons, objects, and throws around foes. After that incident of Mustafar , Vader lost the most amount of his force and physical abilities. I don't understand the point of this sentence. This has been done multiple times, once by me and my thread got locked. @azronger: ignoring feats and a record of wins vs establish duelist is not a debate point. LEGO Star Wars TFA All Anakin Skywalker, Luke Skywalker (Episode IV) Abilities & How to Unlock. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Anakin Skywalker - Nostalji. Round 2: Vader....The only reason luke "won" this battle was because vader was conflicted about killing his son so he didn't try that hard towards the end. you claim is also apparently meaning less. On the ocean bottom of Calamar with massive sea pressure, uses his TK to warp and snap the steel binders that held a super large building in place. He was even manipulated by Sidious himself, to where on top of everything he learned, was slowly being taught how to use the dark side of the force as well. Fun fact: There are talks about that bearded rebel soldier featured in that picture of Luke (as well as ROTJ) being made into Captain Rex. not focusing on one single style to fight against. SirFizzWhizz here didn't even manage to accomplish the first step, only listing Anakin's feats and calling Luke's crap based on nothing really, and then labeled me a troll for disagreeing with his shit logic. Vader and Luke were equal. @geistalt: @chair-sama: Both of your posts are full of strawmans. This is ridiculous. Luke was also able to use Battle Meditation, a rare ability that boosted morale of allies and decreased it from enemies. Luke Skywalker is a character from the Star Wars universe, and the main protagonist of the original trilogy who first appears in Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope.Luke is the twin brother of Princess Leia Organa, both of whom are the children of Padmé Amidala and Anakin Skywalker, the latter a former Jedi who turned to the dark side of the force to became the Sith lord known as Darth Vader. Luke has literally beaten only one person in saber combat, and that is Darth Vader. His swordsman ship is slow and not incredibly effective, so he needed more skill with the force to survive. We have provided our reasoning. L'histoire de la famille s'étend sur trois trilogies cinématographiques, de l'épisode I à l'épisode IX. If Luke was just some random vader would have destroyed him and vader is way weaker than anakin was, Luke could take on vader and anakin if it's eu. Anakin Skywalker est un personnage de fiction créé par George Lucas dans le film La Guerre des étoiles (aka. Anakin wins very easily. Pretty clear he means only someone as powerful as himself can tame the Son and Daughter on the same neutral Force Nexus they have access to. and round two Anakin wins easily!!! EVERYTHING points to him being more skilled then luke, and his FEATS show that, he has shown feats of both force use and of dueling skills that Luke has only been able to match as a GM. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Anakin should take this. Round 1: Honestly, I might say Luke simply because Lucas said that Luke became what Anakin could have been (I think he said that, anyway). So other than fighting a holding back Vader. I asked what makes Anakin more skilled than Luke. A lot. Obi Wan "Anakin, the planet is the Force. I love it, by the way, that people are saying that canon Anakin would beat Luke, but Legends Anakin wouldn't. He's faster, stronger, more agile, more skilled, better with the force, more experienced with combat in general and lightsaber dueling in particular etc etc. EU? If they want it Luke vs ANAKIN then they should specify that it was pre Mustafar Anakin. Round 2- If EU Luke in his prime he destroys Anakin, but if its EU Luke up until the end of ROTJ, then that makes it a bit tougher for me to decide. Born to a slave on Tatooine through Darth Plagueis' manipulation of the Force, Anakin was gifted with unprecedented potential in the Force. because anakin spent his early years in a war. Pulls down a large Temple Statue, catching a heavy chunk of it to throw at a nearby door. (I noticed that Disney has been taking down a lot of Star Wars videos lately. @noah_ouellette: Why are you replying to an OP from almost 4 years ago lol. 4:52. anakin would take it hands down. Unlike clone wars Anakin, this Anakin will tap into his emotions faster and quicker with little to no hesitation. Luke Skywalker vs Anakin Skywalker. I dont, and there is ZERO evidence other than one out of date source from a comic that says otherwise. Anakin Skywalker était-t-il voué à devenir Dark Vador ? @azronger: In Canon materials, Anakin improved little (if at all) as Vader, as demonstrated by his performance in Rebels; the point is that there's only adequate reason to believe he'd win in the Canon universe, since it has been shown that he improved heavily overall in Legends (in other words, while his Legends incarnation doesn't stand a chance, his Canon one might). In that case, they're equally skilled and strong, but Anakin is noticeably faster and considerably more powerful, so he would get the edge. Luke Skywalker vs Yuuzhan Vong. Anakin and Luke Skywalker have a certain amount in common, particularly their beginnings, but they ultimately became totally different people as they followed divergent paths in life. La famille Skywalker est au cœur de la saga cinématographique Star Wars. his years of experience and far better light saber strikes will be unbareable for luke. 1:28. If we take other sources into account, then we have Luke being equal to Darth Vader at this point, who apparently is much stronger than his former self. Anakin Skywalker - The Dell Griffiths . and train all his life just to duel Vader and Vader alone really. Source? Anakin twice shown to be able to blow through Dooku's Force defenses. 7:04. We have no clue how Luke would do against Anakin, without any additional feats. Anakin Skywalker is a Human Jedi Knight and the Chosen One destined to bring balance to the Force. Here is a respect thread to find duels and feats. his only time learning how to properly duel was his one fight against vader where he got his hand cut off. It's much more likely to end up as a melee fight, where Luke takes a clear edge. his only time learning how to properly duel was his one fight against vader where he got his hand cut off. And how exactly is Anakin's familiarity with blaster deflection, a couple of lightsaber forms, Force Lightning, and Force Drain going to help him against an exclusive Djem So user who possesses neither of those Force abilities? Discovered by Jedi Master Qui-Gon Jinn and his Padawan, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Anakin expressed his desire to become a Jedi, eventually being accepted into the Order despite the reservations of members of the Jedi Council, including Jedi Grand Master Yoda and the similarly res… Which translates into him beating Luke how exactly? And how does that make Anakin more skilled than Luke? This battle was inspired by the video posted by Antoine Bandele which you can watch here: If we are going by canon/movie versions only, Anakin absolutely wrecks Luke. Uses the Force to guide his thrown Lightsaber through multiple targets. in the long run, Luke far eclipses his father in skill and power and becomes a better jedi then anakin ever would have, but with these 2 current versions? Shmi Skywalker était une humaine originaire de Tatooine, une planète de la Bordure Extérieure. Anakin has fought and beaten many Lightsaber duelist and masters. so Round 1 - definitely Anakin wins. so lets hear in detail why you think Luke would beat RotS anakin and give us a chance to sit here and endlessly ask you, "but why". What I have done is ask why Anakin would win, since that is what most here believe, and debunk all arguments the three of you (including Fizz) produced. Use it." thats what makes him a "poor" duelist. (Hopefully you guys also know a bit about Anakin Skywalker). so now, we have stated our side of the argument, it is now up to YOU to state why you think Luke is superior. Luke Skywalker (portrayed by Mark Hamill) is the brother of Leia Organa, the brother-in-law of Han Solo, the uncle of Ben Solo, the son of Anakin Skywalker and Padmé Amidala, and the grandson of Shmi Skywalker. ? This is the context some fans simply dont like. Vader vs Movie Luke, we know that Luke wins in the end, but I think that Vader had the potential to win if he really opened up with the force. I think CitizenSentry is referring to the episode where Captain Rex and 2 other clone troopers are found alive in the desert by the rebels and during which time Captain Rex sided with the rebels to help fight off the advancing stormtroopers: Playing dumb is not a counter argument lol. what are you even getting at? I never ignored anything. Cade was able to revive the dead by using the so-called Dark transfer. @naturallygifted: Yes, I know all about that. Luke Skywalker is the main protagonist of the Star Wars original trilogy. That said, I know people like to scale Luke and think he is the badass they wish him to be for sake of... nostalgia I guess. @silver2467: I thought Rouge One Darth Vader has very quick burst speed until he was injured once again. Pendant l'une d'elles, la Prêtresse de la Force Sérénitélui annonça qu'il y aurait un autre Skywalker, prédisant ainsi la naissance de Luke et de sa sœur jumelle Leia. It would make Anakin stronger than luke. Compare movie and show feats, as those are official canon right now. Uses glass and metal as a whirlwind of shrapnel. Obi-Wan stomped Anakin's $%#, Luke would absolutely obliterate him, especially if this is the EU versions of them. OP should really be more specific as to not confuse people. Still Anakin overpowering the Son and Daughter on a neutral Force Nexus planet. Most of lukes training was for the sole purpose of taking on Vader. Unless we give him paranoid schizophrenia mode like on Mustafar, If this is NuCanon Star Wars EU, Anakin stomps Luke. @naturallygifted Anakin would wreck with ease. Judging solely from the movies, Anakin stomps. 5:23. he also trained with many other jedi of the order, and even took lessons from grand master yoda himself(just like luke) on top of this, he learned how to adapt his style over the years to deal with a multitude of enemies(droids, humans, force sensitives, even sith Lords) and literally has a Decade of experience in the clone wars on top of his training by some of the best jedi. Il est le personnage principal des deux premières trilogies de la saga Star Wars.C’est le père de Luke Skywalker et de Leia Organa.Il était destiné à devenir « l’élu » car il avait un taux surnaturel de Midi-chloriens et devait apporter la paix dans la galaxie . 1 Histoire 2 Arbre généalogique 3 Apparitions 4 Sources 5 Notes et références Le fils de Shmi Skywalker, Anakin Skywalker, grandit en tant qu'esclave sur Tatooine.1 Après le départ d'Anakin avec le Jedi Qui-Gon Jinn, Shmi fut libérée par Cliegg Lars qu'elle épousa. What is it about Dooku or Asajj Ventress that victory over them is marks an auto-win over Luke? Sources have factually stated that they were evenly matched without regard to emotional states, so that's simply the fact. I've already debunked the notion that Anakin's greater experience would allow him to win, so you can stop bringing that up. They could have A New Hope Luke and then Anakin or Vader Stomps. How to draw Anakin Skywalker. Luke Skywalker is the main protagonist of the Star Wars original trilogy. Round 1-Anakin- based on feats shiwn in the movies hes faster, more powerful, more experience, but thats a given. it allows him to master his own technique and continuously increase his own skill level against other skilled opponents. Anakin rarely applies himself with the Force, but when he does he proven to be the more powerful than the children. Up until ROTJ he mostly fought some storm troopers and trained with 2 Aged Jedi masters that are well past their prime. I would lean towards Luke 6/10 but could easily be Anakin for the same slight majority. Anakin can win if he abuses the Force, but that won't be likely to happen in character. he has learned how to adapt to each one of them and how to counter each of their styles. Throws back a easy 30 ton large stone column, and then blows Ventress through a stone wall. Cade Skywalker was the latest descendant of Anakin and as a matter of fact, he had powers, which Darth Vader craved to have for all of his life. Now, the whole Anakin/Vader difference. It's pointless to say that if you don't even support him (unless you're a troll, of course). Anakin is a better swordsman. It's father versus son, where two of the most talented, gifted, and important Jedi enter the arena! 19 years later, he encountered former Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi(Under the alias "Ben Kenobi") and joined the Rebel Alliance to bring down the Galactic Empire. @azronger: He had 14 years' worth of training, while Luke only had 4. Anakin has fought in Legends canon the likes of Ventress, Obi Wan, Shaak Ti, Barriss, Ahsoka, Dooku several times, and various Jedi Masters/Padwans in the Temple massacre. Luke can easily perform a mind trick and is even capable to erase knowledge of himself from a target. Troll alert. Vader had 23 (36 if you count his pre-suit incarnation into account) years worth of training, far more than Anakin's 13* and Luke did just fine against him. Anakin Skywalker:VS.Luke Skywalker: VERSIONS:Anakin Skywalker: Revenge Of The SithLuke Skywalker: Return Of The JediInformation:Both characters are mo because anakin spent his early years in a war. 19 years later, he encountered former Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi(Under the alias "Ben Kenobi") and joined the Rebel Alliance to bring down the Galactic Empire. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. That being the case, they should also specify what Luke they want. Anakin moving over 100+ tons of Separatist Dreadnought ship into a path of missiles. In his prime, Anakin was probably the best saber duelist after Mace Windu, Yoda, and Sidious. You are killing your fanbase if you do this. Anakin was way stronger than Luke and when vader and Luke fought Anakin was still stronger but was never going to kill his son, he never wanted to kill his son which is why Luke beat him. He handled the dueling portion against Vader very well, despite the circumstances favoring Vader. Luke Skywalker est une minifigurine Star Wars, le fils d'Anakin Skywalker et Padmé Amidala et le jumeau de Leia. Garçon esclave sur Tatooine, Anakin Skywalker ne rêvait que d'une chose : parcourir les étoiles et les découvrir toutes à bord d'un vaisseau spatial. Mobil Oyun Tv. Then, the prequels told the story of how wayward Jedi Padawan Anakin Skywalker was corrupted by the Sith and became Darth Vader. @azronger: I was just saying what each continuity led me to think, and it's hypocritical to try to protest against someone else's argument for someone emerging victorious and say that you WEREN'T trying to support the opposition just because you "never even claimed Luke would win this." Il était également très bricoleur et servait de mécanicien à Watto, son maître Toydarien. It's what made him a good pilot and the feared Sith Lord that he was. Fighting Luke obviously hinders this connection as he is his son. VİDEO SAYFASI. he trained for a few years to duel against a singular opponent by both of that opponents former masters, and he still struggled. Ferris Nakia. You just seem incapable of understanding my point (again). That is only the first step. Let’s say that by time travel Luke travels back and faces his father when they are the same age and he is still a Jedi. Up until ROTJ he mostly fought some storm troopers and trained with 2 Aged Jedi masters that are well past their prime. Son périple le mena notamment sur la planète Sith Moraband où il dut affronter plusieurs visions du futur. For example, simply saying "Anakin beat Dooku" doesn't prove he can beat Luke without further elaborating as to why. The book states he would kill Luke if he had to, he was not out to kill Luke at all, and holding back. But how does that mean he's more skilled. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Fun. RotS Anakin vs RotJ Luke is definitely still Anakin's game, but if all EU feats (GM) are allowed for Luke then he wins. So other than fighting a holding back Vader, what has ROTJ Luke done in his history to say he is a good duelist? In Anakin Skywalker- I Disappear. so how can you determine who is better without comparing their feats and capabilities. But between the two of us I think I got the cooler stick (swing it!)! The issue is these characters held back and never went all out. http://comicvine.gamespot.com/star-wars-universe/4015-57038/forums/anakin-skywalker-respect-thread-updated-1639459/. fighting them has allowed him to refine his skills, it shows him(especially in the case of dooku) it shows him what works and what does it not. So the context here again is this. 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